
Posted by Chip on July 20, 2000.
In Reply to: Re: Roulette Systems: A Challenge posted by Ion Saliu on July 20, 2000.
: : : Hello Ion,
: : : It was interesting reading your messages to me, as well as the few I surfed through on your message board. Let me first say that I have never seen Casino Royale, but it sounds as though a certain elusive Richard Graham, aka many other names, may have used it as a basis for his Goldmine Roulette!
: : : I am also quite positive our methods of play are not at all the same. My NY Times method is called Power Play ( Please note, not Power Roulette, heaven forbid!! ) It was developed more than 6 years ago. I did indeed have advertisements in the NY Times Bus. Opp. section & had to demonstrate it to the editors before they would accept it. I did the same to potential buyers and screened them to be as sure as possible not to have a "gambler's mentality" type purchase it. Sales were limited to 15 people and there was a non-disclosure agreement signed. I could not sell it for 5 years. The buyers could never reveal it at all. Thankfully, all are still satisfied.
: : : I have had several other gambling experiences, most notably a legal matter regarding a copyright issue that a certain system seller was caught in a rather uncomfortable position.
: : : As for your "roulette challenge", I imagine it is tongue in cheek. I'm sure you know there is no way to prove anything one way or another. How could we possibly play enough to get any meaningful results? How could we be sure we would play at the same casino tables? Etc., etc.. Besides, I view the casino as the opponent.
: : : Let me also point out that I have previously corrected an oversight I made on the lets talk winning board. I stated being ahead 20,000 units in baccarat, when it should have read $20,000. For anyone interested, please go to that board to see I made that correction a few weeks back. I again apologize for it.
: : : My best wishes to you ION and to everyone who follows this message board. Finally, any James Bond movie I can remember that had a casino setting, used baccarat as it's game of choice. Maybe Casino Royale was written by "ION" Fleming!!
: : : LOL,
: : : Chip
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By the way, even Sean Connery, the original Bond, played roulette for big money. I read in the informative “Encyclopedia of Gambling” by Carl Sifakis. Reportedly, Sean Connery played the roulette number 17 and won THREE times in a row! If that’s not blind luck, maybe the casino fixed the spins to honor their special guest!
: : : You wrote:
: : : “As for your "casino gambling challenge", I imagine it is tongue in cheek. I'm sure you know there is no way to prove anything one way or another. How could we possibly play enough to get any meaningful results? How could we be sure we would play at the same tables? Etc., etc.. Besides, I view the casino as the opponent.”
: : : I believe there is a valid way to prove roulette systems: Playing in a casino! The casino is the opponent, indeed. Others could choose the tables for us, or you and I select the tables blindfolded. We can play at different tables, or we can play at the same table. When playing at the same table, we secretly tell another person what our play will be. That way no imitation occurs. We can play one day, or several days in a row.
: : : My roulette strategy requires keeping track of the roulette spins, by recording them in a notebook. Are you also using a notebook?
: : : There can be another challenge: See who will figure out first the “other” system. Of course, we sign a non-disclosure agreement prior to our “contest”. I don’t take it as something resembling hostility any bit. I will do it mostly for the sake of science.
: : : While at casinos, we can also try our hands at blackjack. I might even be able to learn baccarat by that time. I know I can apply a blackjack-like strategy at baccarat.
: : : What would be a meaningful measure of success? Winning a few gambling sessions in a row. We can establish the session to be 100 or 200 spins. There is a method called the incomplete induction or something like that. If an event is validated m times, and validated m+r times, then it means it will be validated for any n times.
: : : I hope you’ll take on the roulette gambling challenge. I wonder if you could contact the same NY Times editors again. Let them know about this challenge. At least, you could offer us a way to contact them.
: : : It sounds very exciting to me, Chip. I want to do it for the sake of Reason.
: : : Best of luck!
: : : Ion Saliu
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: : I saw this post after I sent you my e mail. I am attaching a copy of same below.
: : Be well,
: : Chip
: : Ion,
: : It's true Power Play does indeed use a charting method, be it a notebook or card etc.
: : As for the gambling challenge in casino, I think we have different opinions about validating a method. I'm a proponent of such schools of thought like Richard Epstein's "Theory of Gambling and Statistical Logic." Some of Epstein's suggestions have tortured and inspired professional gamblers for years. This book is pretty much the unvarnished truth about games of chance. In my opinion, based on such sources, we could never play long enough to prove anything. I also can see that we may have to put in a great deal of time to play at the same table. I base this on your refrences to your method and, of course, what I know about mine. I also have no desire to call any attention to myself in the casino, beyond what I have already attracted. So I must respectfully decline your invitation.
: : I do agree with your interests of science suggestions. Perhaps there may be another way to pool our ideas. I am less interested in roulette currently anyway.
: : All the best,
: : Chip
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: • Chip:
: I am really disappointed by your decision. You shouldn’t fear anything. I’m sure your pride will determine you change your mind.
: At least, please do me two special favors.
: 1) Tell me how much you charged for your system.
: 2) Give me one name or two of the New York Times editors you presented your system to. I would like to do the same with my strategy. They might become interested in a report…
: Good luck!
: Ion Saliu
Ion,
I must say you are persistent! I have no fear whatsoever. Why would I? As for my pride, I make that a very self-contained issue as far as casino play goes. To be sure I have plenty. But, I like to keep that within me. However, I am perplexed as to how, with your obvious knowledge, you seem not to accept that there is nothing to be proved by the competition you propose. That of course is for you to know. To be perfectly honest, it has no room at all in my scheme of things as far as playing in a casino. That is my last comment on that particular issue.
My New York Times ad ran aproximately spring of 1994. Hopefully some of the wording will add to my comments above. The bulk of it is as follows:
$$$ Powerplay Roulette
Casino demonstrated with our own money. Seeing is believing. Limited availability for serious business-minded people only. Contact
718 ___ ____.
The cost is a matter of the non-disclosure. An estimate of the mid 4 figures might be a reasonable assumption. I have no idea of anyone's name from the Times as it was quite long ago. When the ad was being deliberated, they sent represntatives on 2 separate trips we made to Atlantic City.
I can only tell you that they were satisfied and accepted the ad. The ad also appeared in an Asian USA newspaper, but they actually contacted us. I think you are reading too much into that aspect of things. I would be flabergasted if you were able to attract any significant attention from any newspaper of note to such a demonstration. Beyond that, the chances are even slimmer a casino would allow that to happen at it's tables. In my opinion, speaking with considerable experience, your exuberence is running far ahead of what is within reason to expect in the real world. Hopefully, this information will be of some help and/or direction.
Just to change the focus as I conclude, I have just today stumbled across a little known research paper in a statistical Journal by Professor Edward Thorp. For the few not familiar with that name, he is the person who invented blackjack card counting and put the only real legitimate fear ever into the casino bottom line. The article concerns shuffles, which is a topic that is of extreme interest to me. For those of you that are saying this guy needs to get a life, your probably right.
LOL and regards,
Chip

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