Posted by Ion Saliu on July 23, 2000.

In Reply to: Re: Put Your $ Where Your Mouth Is ION! posted by Chip on July 23, 2000.

Chip:
It was a mistake on my part. I should have done some research on you, before inviting you to post here. You are one of the most notorious scammers in newsgroups. In my opinion, you are delusional. You fabricate things, like your story with a roulette system and New York Times. Here are two passages from your posts that back my opinion on you.

“I have no idea of anyone's name from the Times as it was quite long ago. When the ad was being deliberated, they sent represntatives on 2 separate trips we made to Atlantic City. I can only tell you that they were satisfied and accepted the ad…”
What a fabrication! The prestigious “New York Times” sending representatives to Atlantic City! If they have doubts with an ad, the advertiser will come to NYT with proofs, not the other way around.

"...Dr.Edward Thorp... unquestionably the greatest mind ever to turn his attention to gambling, has made small fortunes at blackjack, roulette, and sports betting;... Over $65 billion have passed through his hands over the last few decades…”
Can a sane person believe that “over $65 billion have passed through” a person’s hands? Besides, Thorp has refused to this day to accept another $100,000 challenge from the late Scarne. Thorp was as afraid to test his system at the casino table, as you are, Chip, regarding your phantom system.

You simply got mad after I invited you to put your roulette system to a test vis-à-vis mine. Why did that turn your rage on? Fear that I unmasked you, at the same time when I unmasked another notorious scammer: Steve Player.
Now, this is the end of it. You can go back to newsgroups and let others turn you into a punching bag. You are not allowed to post here anymore. If you disregard this notice, you’ll be dealt with as spammer and scammer. I would be forced to inform AOL on your abusing email policies.

Good-bye!

Ion Saliu

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: As we can see, ION has declined to put his money where his mouth is. On the one hand he spouts he wants to play against another person which can not possibly prove a thing, ( of course he can't comprehend this ), and then he declines to fork over any real money to prove his point.
: Let's take more of your own message. You refer to Mr. Scarne and he indeed was a wonderful figure. I am more than familiar with his challenge to Professor Thorp. Of course his explanation is open to opinion, and given from Scarne's side only. Mr. Scarne, rest his soul, was known to embelish a story now and then. More on Thorp below. But, what is Scarne's point? It's you can't beat the house with (gasp) a system. Now, why not read through the rest of the book and what does John say about roulette systems?? Interesting to see how you'll explain away that one.
: Next, Mike Shakleford has books out that verify what many, many, certified authorities say, there are no gambling systems. So, we hung you wth Scarne, you deny the mathematical certainty, you ignore the Encyclopaedia Britannica and criticise Einstein. You yourself say he proposed a toungue and cheek system. Then you say the most brilliant mind that ever lived was ridiculous.

: Let's continue to hang you as the uninformed amatuer you are. So Thorp couldn't gamble huh?
: You are so shallow and uninformed. I am going to quote directly from an authorative book. Since you are so smart as to the great Thorp, you should have no trouble locating this work. And John, if you are reading this by any chance, I know you would have no problem with my quoting you. This is from pp.43,44 of the work in question: "...Dr. Edward Thorp... unquestionably the greatest mind ever to turn his attention to gambling, has made small fortunes at blackjack, roulette, and sports betting;... Over $65 billion have passed through his hands over the last few decades, and his personal fortune can only be guessed at. He is without doubt the most successful gambler who has ever lived. All of this was due to an extraordinary ability to understand the matematics of gambling games and devise practical ways to bend chance to his will..."

: What now fella? More explaining away? It is hard to imagine how you base your opinions on yet another great mind because he is criticised in a couple of sentences by a guy who, shall we say, like to be "creative." And that very same source rips apart roulette systems. He would pulverize you. How dumb!! I mean can you really not know of how documented Thorp's coups are? You can't possibly be serious.
: And thank you for swallowing the bait. I told you you were being set up and hook, line and sinker - you bit. You chose to put words in my mouth, but to a certain extent it's true. I think gambling, in it's commonly understood and applied sense, is
: a great thing to avoid. Maybe for a night out as a little entertainment. But, for the 99.99% of people that are eventually in the losers column, I think that is foolish ( my opinion ).

But back to the bait you gobbled up. We'll start with my playing partner Playbig2000. Ion, you shoot from the hip too quickly. Read again what I wrote. The basic message was he bought the house
: with money he made playing baccarat. Look close! Did I not say thank you Bally's on behalf of Playbig? Well, well yes I did. Where do you conclude that the $20,000 I refer to that Play big and I have made together with baccarat means he has not played on his own many, many times? Here's a fact son- he has played on a 5 days a week basis for several months this year and last year. He has mountains of score cards that he played. I did not partake of the majority of those sessions. We played together often enough, but not exclusively with each other. I played a good deal on my own ( as I will next week ). And just for the record, a few years ago we played Powerplay roulette as a team and did quite nicely thank you. He then played on his own and, well you can guess.

: But here comes the real set up my putty in my hands friend. Powerplay, as well as my baccarat approach are not gambling systems. They are bias recognition strategies. That is what was sold on a very limited basis. It takes time and patience and passing by many a table to find the qualifications for the bias, but they exist. You just have to know the whole process. And when you play, it is very rare to be at a table for more than 10 spins and not unusual to be there for only 2. So, no, I'm not there to gamble. I am there to win money, plain and simple. If I have to bide my time until I see what I want, that's fine with me. And maybe, just maybe, you can get a little more insight as to how playing head to head has no possible worth whatever. It still wouldn't if I had a way to play all the spins you did too.It's math guy. You need tens of millions of spins or you don't prove squat!

: As for baccarat, again there are ways to actually turn the advantage in the players favor. It's not easy mind you, but again patience is the virtue that compliments knowledge. Here I present for your uninformed existence, a very minor and hard to find, example of what a player may be able to accomplish. Remember it's a working example. You don't expect the real good stuff do you?? If you knew that the end of the bac. shoe was very near and also knew that the deck had a very high number of 0 valued cards, what would you do? Play a tie bro. Sure, normally it's a bad bet, But, say knew all the cards were 0 value cards. You couldn't lose! As I said this is a working example. But there are many other ways to exploit the advantage as to player or bank also. What cards are player favorable? Which ones are better to bet bank? And baccarat allows a score card, or your own charting method as a routine. Imagine ever having a player with paper and pencil at the bj table. So by knowing your stuff and basing the mathematics I have preached to you all along, you can indeed take much of the gambling out of it.

: Ion, you officially bore the daylights out of me. Sure folks, he'll come back with some whinning reply. But, I have presented facts upon facts. Anyone is free to do with them what he or she chooses. I won't knock Einstein, or the Encyclopedia Brittanica, and most certainly not Professor Thorp. But, Ion, even though you consider yourself greater than all of them, you are no more than a mascot. I have to get some sleep. I am part owner of a business ( guess where I won the downpayment to buy it ION! ) and have some work to do in the AM. I also have a profession for the record. I am done with you amatuer. Anyone out there that wants to buy into you, well that is where I would place the Gambler's Fallacy as far as this board is concerned.

Adios. Chip

PS
Chip's real name: Frank Accardi, accused of grand larceny in New York. He "committed" baccarat gambling with money stolen from the children he was supposed to tutor at home! He lost the money in the casinos, then he went back to the parents and asked for more money -- under threat! Misusing his Italian American name as a Mafia connotation!

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